Dinarded’s Dinar Quest was created to collect, disseminate, and discuss information, from across the web, in relation to the New Iraqi Dinar and it’s possible Revaluation. All comments are welcome!
Is This REALLY Gonna Happen? You Tell Me……
I apologize up front for the length of this post BUT I hope my efforts here will help shed a little light, on what may or may not be true, in relation to the value of OUR INVESTMENT in the Iraqi Dinar. I want to emphasize the term “OUR INVESTMENT” because I OWN DINAR too.
I am not what you might consider an “old timer” in this investment. In fact, I have owned my Dinar for less than a year. I made my first purchase in November of 2009 because a friend suggested I do so, quickly. Normally I do not JUMP into anything but I was convinced that he might be right; so I made my purchase.
I think, in the effort of full disclosure, I should at least throw my “qualifications” out there, for speaking on the Dinar, before you read any further.
I am not a currency trader nor am I an investment advisor. I was however, a registered representative (stock broker – Series 7 – fully licensed by the Fed and the State of Texas) for 6 1/2 years. I was an ACTIVE broker (managing client accounts, making stock recommendations, executing buy and sell orders, and researching prospective opportunities for my clients) for the first 4 of those years. To put it in simpler terms, I was a “Bud Fox” (Like in the movie Wall Street). No, I never got to sleep with Daryl Hannah (a chick – for those that don’t know) but then, nobody’s perfect. ![]()
As you can see, I am NOT a currency specialist; nor do I play one on tv. But what I do posses, is the mind of someone who understands markets and securities. I am not making the claim of being a financial guru or that I am even qualified (in the most astute sense of the word) to tell you guys what to do with your money. Cash, whether it be the USD, the IQD, the EURO, or the Peso are considered “securities.” And as such, their values fluctuate on the most basic of financial principles; “supply and demand.” For those of you that would like to read up on how a central bank controls the value of their respective nation’s money supply, I would suggest you google the purpose of a central bank.
So without further delay, let’s just dive right into this……
We have all been told that 25 Trillion Iraqi Dinar were printed. Of that amount, we have no way of knowing how much of that currency the Central Bank of Iraq still holds in it’s liability column. Or, how much of that cash is in the hands of the global public.
As of 2010, the population of Iraq is approximately 31,234,000.
http://www.trueknowl…of_iraq_in_2010
So we have a nation of people who’s population totals a little over 31 million, who’s central bank originally had 25 trillion of their dollars (dinars) printed for circulation.
Now let’s compare that to a country like, oh I don’t know……The United States. Probably a good place to start since their money is pegged to our dollar.
As of 2010, the population of the United States is approximately 305,689,000
And as shown below, we currently have 1,132,337 Trillion dollars (real currency) in circulation. Of course the Fed (Federal Reserve) is on the hook for much more than hard currency but that’s another discussion altogether.
12. Collateral Held against Federal Reserve Notes: Federal Reserve Agents’ Accounts
Millions of dollars
Wednesday Aug 4, 2010
Federal Reserve notes outstanding: 1,132,337
http://www.federalre…es/h41/current/
So let’s compare:
Iraqi population of 31.2 million
US population of 305.6 million
Iraqi currency 25 trillion with no proof that ALL of it is NOT in circulation
US currency in circulation 1.13 trillion
Let’s think about this for a minute………we have 305.6 million Americans that are fighting for their share of 1.13 trillion worth of cash. LET ME STATE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE BASICS OF FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING so I know that “wealth” is not represented in the currency supply OR the amount of money an entity may have in the bank. So for illustrative purposes let’s focus on the marketability of the currency alone. We have a supply for a market and a demand for the equity on that security. Not only are American’s vying for the dollar, but other nations are as well. (SUPPLY AND DEMAND)
Contrast this with Iraq:
We have a nation of 31.2 million Iraqis that are fighting for their share of 25 trillion worth of cash. We have a supply for a market and a demand for the equity on that security. At this point, the only REAL demand for that equity is created by the 31.2 million Iraqis. Other than travelers and speculators (like us) there isn’t much demand internationally. Thus, the whole point of bringing the IQD to the international markets.
Now I ask you this…..
Does it make sense that a currency, without much marketability, would maintain it’s current level of supply, and hit the international market at a 3 to 1 ratio to one of the most valuable currencies on the market?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to reduce the currency supply before bringing the currency to the international market?
Look, I know that this line of thinking, or reason, is frowned upon by those who are hoping to become millionaires overnight. And the last thing that I want to do is trash people’s dreams of this giant windfall that WE ARE ALL hoping for. (I own IQD as well)
But is it possible that there is a “plan” in place that ISN’T exactly what WE are all hoping for??
I already know the counter arguments to this and I know that the BIG thing people like point out is the “low rate of inflation” in Iraq. But what does that REALLY mean?
Well, the definition of “inflation” is: The rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and, subsequently, purchasing power is falling.
http://www.investope…i/inflation.asp
So when someone points out that inflation in Iraq is “under control” or “low”, what they are saying is that the prices of goods and services are increasing, annually, at a low rate. The problem with this argument is that the ridiculous amount of currency needed to purchase goods and services in Iraq is still WAY out of line when compared to non-third world nations. I mean come on; it takes 40-50 of US currency to take the family out to dinner on a Friday night. In Iraq it takes 40,000 – 50,000 of THEIR currency for the same meal. So the nominal value of their currency, while common place in Iraq, is in no way representative of a currency holding any REAL value. That’s why it takes SO MUCH OF IT to purchase goods and services in Iraq.
When people talk about the historical value of the Iraqi Dinar, they like to point out the rate prior to Sadam’s reign. And that rate may have been a legitimate valuation of the currency at that time. BUT….what was the country’s population and how much currency was available to the market? I can almost promise you that BOTH figures are dramatically smaller than what we are seeing today.
Look, I am not here to bash hopes and dreams. I am not here to cause discontent and I am not here to dissuade folks from doing what they want to do with their money. All I am trying to do is put forth reasonable posits that MUST be considered by EVERY PERSON, that owns Iraqi Dinar.
Now I know that MANY will respond negatively to this post and I am ok with that. I am merely sharing the thoughts, questions, and reservations that I have in relation to OUR INVESTMENT.
Thanks for reading…………..
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MALIKI FINISHED!!!!!!
Iraqi prime minister Al-Maliki refused second term by Sadrists
Sadrists’ stance comes after a five-month political stalemate that threatens to leave Iraq leaderless

The followers of Muqtada al-Sadr, who form a king-making bloc in the next Iraqi government, have confirmed they will not accept Prime Minister Nour al-Maliki’s candidacy for a second term as leader.
The move effectively ends the career of the US-backed incumbent. The Sadrists’ stance comes after a five-month political stalemate that threatens to leave Iraq leaderless, as the remaining 15,000 or so US forces leave the country ahead of a 31 August deadline.
The move is seen as a potential breakthrough in the destabilising deadlock that many believe has led to a steady increase in violence. The decision was confirmed today by the head of the Sadrist political bloc, Nassar al-Rubaie. He said he had told Maliki that he would have to leave his post in order for the Sadrists to maintain support for his party in an eventual coalition government.
Without the support of the Sadrists, who are led by the exiled anti-western cleric, Muqtada al-Sadr, neither of the two biggest rival political blocs would be unlikely to be able to form a government. This includes the head of the Iraqiya Alliance, Iyad Allawi, who last month courted al-Sadr’s support in a public meeting in the Syrian capital, Damascus.
However, al-Rubaie indicated that the Damascus summit has not led the Sadrists to split from the largely Shia Islamic bloc that threatens to sidelineAllawi’s cross-sectarian alliance.
Al-Rubaie revealed that the 40-strong bloc of MPs in an eventual new parliament had thrown their support behind former transitional prime minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, who led Iraq throughout 2005, on the eve of the breakout of full-blown sectarian chaos.
“Maliki eventually isolated all around him by his behaviour,” said al-Rubaie. “This includes all members of his alliance. In the end, it was only his Dawa party that had influence that spread throughout all branches of government.
The Sadrists have had a strained recent history with Maliki whom they accuse of allowing US jets to bomb Sadr City in Baghdad in 2007 and 2008 and of reneging on a pledge to release up to 400 Sadrist prisoners who were handed over by US forces late last year.
“Whenever we asked him anything, he would say yes, yes, yes, then not keep any one of his pledges,” said al-Rubaie.
The move against Maliki was announced yesterday by former deputy prime minister, Ahmed Chalabi, whose Iraqi National Congress Party has allied with the Sadrists and the main party in their bloc.
Both Chalabi and al-Jafari remain deeply unpopular with the US government. They accuse Chalabi of providing false information that helped make a case for the 2003 invasion. The US gripe with al-Jafari, however, is that he failed to safeguard the country from a slide into sectarian crisis.
Iraqi officials said yesterday that July marked the highest nationwide death toll of any month since the same period in 2008. They said 535 people were killed and 1,043 wounded during violent attacks.
However, the US military later refuted that figure, claiming only 222 people were killed last month, less than half the number compiled by Iraq. US officials have dreaded a scenario of Iraq remaining without a new government after their combat forces have left by the end of the month. The US have been equally sensitive to claims that violence is increasing and that services have barely improved throughout over the past seven years.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/01/iraq-pm-al-maliki-refused/print
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No intention to change the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar
Baghdad: Iraq’s inflation rate remained at its lowest level in three decades for the second straight month in May due to lower prices for food, non-alcoholic beverages, communications and energy, a senior central bank official said yesterday.
Inflation was unchanged at three per cent in May versus April, and down from 4.7 per cent in May 2009, Mudher Qasim, the central bank’s adviser, said in an exclusive interview in Iraq’s capital, Baghdad.
Last cut
Qasim said the central bank has no plans to cut interest rates. Iraq’s central bank last cut its base interest rate by 100 basis points to six per cent in April.
The bank also has no intention to change the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar, which has been at 1,170 to the US dollar for more than a year, in the foreseeable future, he added.
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ICNA – Islamic Circle of North America
The video below is a clip from July 21, 2010 on Fox News’ Fox & Friends Morning Show.
The spokes person for this group ADMITS that they are “partners with” and “funded by The Department of Homeland Security.”
Here are a couple of links that you may find interesting………..Google the group for yourself!
NY Muslim Group Linked to bin Laden Supporters — 07/18/2005
http://www.qazihussainexposed.com/Qazi/PDF/BinladenAHero.pdf
ICNA-SE web links to terrorist organizations on its homepage
http://www.americansagainsthate.org/ICNA-SE_Web_Links.html
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Obama Bumper Sticker Removal Kit – Available at BSRemoval.com – feat. Brad Stine
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Looks like ole Enorrste, Gankans, and TerryK are HOMELESS again!
(Gankans Enorrste TerryK = GET)
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Megyn Kelly Smacks Down Kirsten Powers – Fox News 07/13/2010
I know this is a “Dinar Site” but how can you turn your head to a GREAT “Cat Fight!”
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Al-Qaida back in Iraq prepping mayhem, death Terrorists mount resurgence with 2-prong strategy
Editor’s Note: The following report is excerpted from Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin, the premium online newsletter published by the founder of WND. Subscriptions are $99 a year or, for monthly trials, just $9.95 per month for credit card users, and provide instant access for the complete reports.
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The impasse in Iraq in its attempt to form a new government continues some four months after parliamentary elections. And U.S. sources inside the strife-ridden nation now are saying analysts “aren’t connecting the inability of the Iraqis to form a government with what AQI [al-Qaida in Iraq] is doing,” according to a report from Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.
What al-Qaida is doing is mounting a resurgence, said to consist of a two-prong strategy of outreach as well as mayhem and death. A source is reporting AQI is exploiting Sunnis who feel they are being left out of the political process.
In addition, Ansar al-Sunnah is tag-teaming with AQI and releasing “Berg-style” live beheading videos to further mayhem and death. The source was referring to Nick Berg, an American Jewish businessman who was captured by al-Qaida in May 2004. A videotape of his beheading was sent to news media, sending shock waves around the world.
Ansar al-Sunnah is a militant Salafi group fighting U.S.-led coalition forces and the elected Shiite government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
In what amounts to a change of tactics to attract more followers, AQI has decided to kill fewer people at a time in suicide bombings and to avoid killing fellow Sunni Arabs, because the number of Sunni victims earlier had prompted Sunni tribesmen to rebel against AQI in 2007.
Al-Qaida is pressing similar action in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and even the North Caucasus. It seeks to get local elements to go along with its Salafi-Jihadi ideology rather than allying the al-Qaida movement with local militant groups. Sources said it is a strategy al-Qaida has learned from experiences in Iraq.
For the rest of this report and these other intelligence briefs, go to Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin:
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Kaperoni Post: Just4Dinar (Thoughts #5 – Stating My Case)
What I did say was that they can survive without a rv. But we all know they stated on numerous occasions there intentions to introduce smaller denominations and remove the larger (three zeros). And most importantly…take the dinar on a forward market “in the near future” as stated back in March 2010.
There are many things to consider prior to a rv. And I think seeing the small denominations either in circulation or sold on the street is important. You ask…sold on the street? Yes, I believe we will see them on the street. We all know what kind a country Iraq is. That they will sell there brother if they could. And IMO, if smaller denoms were in banks, someone would be showing them off for a price. The security in that country is not not good enough to prevent it. Coins are not in circulation, but they are for sale on EBay.
Iraq is progressing. But these other guys want you to think everyday the GOI will be seated and the rv will come a day or later. IMO it is simply not true. It is a plan and a process. They simply are not ready yet.
Iraq can make it from day to day…. from the loans to black market oil sales, they find money. Yes, we can all point to the many ways or reasons they need to get this RV done. Tradable currency, investment, WTO, etc. And it will happen. But I don’t see it happening in the next 30 days. I am still a believer in 2010, but we will have to wait and see.
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Allawi says govt. likely to be formed in August July 9, 2010 – 03:35:38
BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: Iraqiya bloc leader Iyad Allawi on Friday expected the Iraqi government lineup to take form in August and the three top state posts to be clear late this month.
“I believe that matters are God willing heading in the right direction. Negotiations are in the final stages and we hope to end this affair as soon as possible,” Lebanon’s national information agency quoted Allawi as saying after a meeting with Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri.
“I have briefed Prime Minister Hariri on developments in Iraq and the negotiations to form an Iraqi government as soon as possible,” said Allawi, a former prime minister of Iraq.
This week has seen a breakthrough between Allawi’s al-Iraqiya bloc, which won 91 seats in the March 7 legislative elections, and incumbent Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s Dawlat al-Qanoon (State of Law), which came second with 89 seats.
The constitutional deadline to name a president of the republic and a speaker of parliament will end on July 13. The president, according to the constitution, would designate a prime minister within 15 days.
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